What is the difference between envy and jealousy, anyway? Other than one is neither associated with green nor a deadly sin? Why is envy deadly when jealousy is not? Also a song. Jealousy gets to be a song. Jealousy gets all the love. Or at least the lack of hate... Anyhow, working in a library in any capacity even if you're like cleaning the toilets (which I doubt you are) is so very cool! Our school librarian is cool. She got her hands on an emu egg! It's an awesome color. Like dark-greenblue. I mean envy. I wish you emu eggs in your job.
According to "The Right Word" section in my Dictionary:
"Envious implies wanting something that belongs to another and to which one has no particular right or claim (: envious of her good fortune). Jealous may refer to a strong feeling of envy (: it is hard not to be jealous of a man with a job like his), or it may imply an intense effort to hold on to what one possesses (: jealous of what little time she has to herself); it is often associated with distrust, suspicion, anger, and other negative emotions (: a jealous wife). ... In other words, a young man might be jealous of the other men who flirt with his girlfriend, while they might be envious of her obvious preference for him."
Seems like it's just a subtle semantic difference, and I'm not sure that clears it up a whole lot. (It seem to me that they're just trying to justify some difference in usage that doesn't necessarily exist in practice.) So jealousy could also be green, but "green with jealousy" just sounds wrong, doesn't it? Aren't idioms fun?
Also, I found 20 artists with songs called "Envy" on iTunes, so it seems that envy gets some love, too. But "Jealousy" gets more with 50+ different songs. Do you think envy envies jealousy? Or is envy jealous of jealousy? (I've just noticed that despite semantic similarity, envy has the obvious syntactic advantage. It can be used as a verb!)
I think the key lies in that the Bible defines envy as coveting something that a) isn't yours in the first place and b) belongs to someone else. You have no particular right to it, and you certainly don't have the right to take whatever it is from its rightful owner. Jealousy, in the old sense, was being possessive of something or someone, as in "Heathcliff is jealous of Cathy's attention", showing that he wants it all for himself. Hope that helps.
I'm working at the circulation desk, so mostly checking stuff in and out I guess. The library is at a local community college. Since it's the only library on campus I'm guessing it'll be busier than the last library where I worked, so I'll probably have less time to devote to sudoku.
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Date: 2008-03-03 11:35 pm (UTC)What is the difference between envy and jealousy, anyway? Other than one is neither associated with green nor a deadly sin? Why is envy deadly when jealousy is not? Also a song. Jealousy gets to be a song. Jealousy gets all the love. Or at least the lack of hate... Anyhow, working in a library in any capacity even if you're like cleaning the toilets (which I doubt you are) is so very cool! Our school librarian is cool. She got her hands on an emu egg! It's an awesome color. Like dark-greenblue. I mean envy. I wish you emu eggs in your job.
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Date: 2008-03-04 12:11 am (UTC)According to "The Right Word" section in my Dictionary:
"Envious implies wanting something that belongs to another and to which one has no particular right or claim (: envious of her good fortune).
Jealous may refer to a strong feeling of envy (: it is hard not to be jealous of a man with a job like his), or it may imply an intense effort to hold on to what one possesses (: jealous of what little time she has to herself); it is often associated with distrust, suspicion, anger, and other negative emotions (: a jealous wife).
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In other words, a young man might be jealous of the other men who flirt with his girlfriend, while they might be envious of her obvious preference for him."
Seems like it's just a subtle semantic difference, and I'm not sure that clears it up a whole lot. (It seem to me that they're just trying to justify some difference in usage that doesn't necessarily exist in practice.) So jealousy could also be green, but "green with jealousy" just sounds wrong, doesn't it? Aren't idioms fun?
Also, I found 20 artists with songs called "Envy" on iTunes, so it seems that envy gets some love, too. But "Jealousy" gets more with 50+ different songs. Do you think envy envies jealousy? Or is envy jealous of jealousy? (I've just noticed that despite semantic similarity, envy has the obvious syntactic advantage. It can be used as a verb!)
Anyway, thank your for your emu wishes. :D
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