Town Hall!

Oct. 7th, 2008 09:19 pm
alexiscartwheel: (barack obama)
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The debate is on, but I have no booze. Were I to be playing a drinking game, and had I selected the phrase "my friends," John McCain would already have me well on the way to drunkeness.

Please lets not talk about earmarks again. I thought I was done hearing about "pork barrel" after high school government class.

My friends! Off-shore drilling! Nuclear power!

Brokaw has reminded them of the rules. Twice.

My friends. Rules thrice. And... four times.

What sacrifices should you make? A goat maybe? Oh, no, we're sacrificing overhead projectors instead. Much less Biblical. LAAAME. Earmarks! Earmarks! "We're not rifle shots here. We're Americans!" What? Get 'er done!

ETA: Obama is talking about the American people having a need, and I keep wanting to finish that with "the need for speed." But Barack, I like my Japanese car! Peace Corps is cool though. Cause it's about peace, yo.

Wall Street gonna buy you a draaank. Barack is going to use a scalpel instead of a hatchet! (That is to say, he will nail Jell-o to the wall.) This all sounds like a pretty kickin' frat party.

Doesn't Obama look all inspiring sitting there all leaning-ish while listening to John McCain? Also, his tie is better.

MY FRIENDS! Ahhhhhhh! Oh, those folks over in section C. They're a bunch of rabble rousers! And she's into green things! Ahhh! My friends! John McCain, you're a pretty lame environmentalist. IT HAS TO BE SAFE OR DISPOSABLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT??? SOMETHING LIKE THAT? Dude, we know the plant is going to blow up, this isn't Chernobyl... but don't blow off the nuclear waste thing. Can we at least weigh the positives and negatives instead of just writing off the negatives like they don't matter?

ETA2: We have lights, they are red, yellow and green! ILU Tom Brokaw! Ugh, my friends. Haha... Bush and Cheney loaded a bill down with goodies. It sounds like a piñata. John McCain hates piñatas, my friends.

Okay, being serious for a second. What Obama just said about insurance and pre-existing conditions: that's actually really important. As someone with one of those pesky pre-existing conditions, it's no good if I can get health insurance, but then won't cover the prescription I need. And I don't understand McCain's thing about "shopping around" in different states for insurance. Cause different states have different laws... and how would that work with your preferred doctors and pharmacies if your plan is in a different state.

HEALTH CARE IS A RIGHT, TOM BROKAW! A RIGHT! I want Obama to hire Hillary Clinton to give us all health care.

ETA3:My friends. My friends. My friends. You know, we're talking about keeping peace in the world with the military, but I still think that "peacekeeping troops" is an oxymoron. It reminds me of when Oma tried to help me play Sim City once, and told me to build churches instead of Police Stations if I wanted to reduce the crime in my city. So, there I have to disagree with both of them. I'm really not for "let's go out and crush the terrorists."

Our plan is to get the support of the people of Pakistan? From what I've read, the US is widely unpopular there. I think we should try to work with the new government, but I don't think our plans should hinge on them all suddenly loving America.

Did John McCain just promise us he knows how to "get" Osama bin Laden? An acceptable dictatorship? Oh, the Brits are so delightfully jaded. (Of course, promoting "acceptable" dictators has been US policy in the past. See: Pakistan.) [livejournal.com profile] d4ni says "OMG IF MCCAIN MENTIONS GENERAL PETREUS ONE MORE TIME I'M GONNA START THINKING THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON BETWEEN THEM."

ETA4:Is it just me, or are we not hearing anything new at all tonight? Putin's eyes say KGB, Iran can't have the bomb, Israel is always right... blah blah blah. I blame you, 24 hour news cycle. I think this is proof that the campaign just goes on waaaay too long. Canada recently called elections, and they're next week. We have to watch the campaign for YEARS!

What don't you know? I wish they would actually answer this one, but they won't. Obama's moved about a mile away from the original question. I mean, what his saying is good... it just has nothing to do with the question at all. John McCain can't predict the future. Which is unenlightening, but props for kind of answering the question.

Why is it not okay to admit weaknesses though? Every single person ever gets that question in a job interview, and that's basically what this is. Humility is good, my friends!

Brokaw says GTFO you're blocking my script! I think he wins.

Date: 2008-10-08 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stubefied-by-gd.livejournal.com
I love how off-shore drilling will solve ALL our problems. Including health-care.

Date: 2008-10-08 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexiscartwheel.livejournal.com
Well, duh! If we drill off-shore, then in ten more years you will have gas in Atlanta. And then you will be able to drive to the ER, thus solving your health care problems.

Date: 2008-10-08 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nochenne.livejournal.com
O. M. G. Brilliance!

This post made me seriously LOL, and you make excellent points. Did you catch the line about the wheel falling off the Straight Talk Express? Hee!

Date: 2008-10-08 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexiscartwheel.livejournal.com
Glad you enjoyed! :D And it's so true about the Straight Talk Express. Anyone can tell that this is not the same McCain campaign from eight years ago.

I think McCain's nailing down Obama's tax plan is like nailing Jell-O to a wall was my favorite line of the night, just because it's so silly. I can't get past the weird imagery of that.

The now infamous "that one" on the other hand was pretty disrespectful and possibly full of latent racism, which is not funny at all. McCain seems to get nasty when he's not doing well.

Date: 2008-10-08 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stubefied-by-gd.livejournal.com
Yeah, just leave it all up to the ER. Then we'll all get the BEST care there is!

Date: 2008-10-08 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexiscartwheel.livejournal.com
You WILL get the best care. The free market will solve it!

Date: 2008-10-08 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stubefied-by-gd.livejournal.com
Gahhhhh!!! Not the free market!!!

Sorry to break the game, but I shudder. Back home, that was just an economic vocab word, but here it's like a god. Seriously. People kept writing into the local papers complaining that if the governor hadn't enacted silly anti-pricing-gouging rules, there would have been no gas shortage because the FREE MARKET FIXES EVERYTHING.

I am sorry, but the free market is largely an excuse for people to do whatever they feel like with no thought about what's right and call it economic policy.

Date: 2008-10-08 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexiscartwheel.livejournal.com
Gahhhhh!!! Not the free market!!! Oh, sorry, did I scare you with my fake economic policy? :P

So let me get this straight: the good folks of Georgia want to be ripped off for their gas? And how would that make there magically be more of it?

I totally agree that it's a huge excuse for people to do whatever they want. I mean, it's a comforting theory, I suppose, that everything'll just work out okay in the end... except for the part where it doesn't actually work because people are greedy. We're right in the middle of the results of that, and people still can't see that a little regulation might actually be a good thing.

Date: 2008-10-09 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stubefied-by-gd.livejournal.com
Some people were panicking and topping off, so it was decided that if gas were mad expensive, only the people who really don't care about money needed it would buy it and supply would meet demand. [Annnnd the only people on the road would be millionaires, and then even they would get stuck when the gas-station attendants couldn't afford to get to work.]

Date: 2008-10-08 09:11 pm (UTC)
sea_thoughts: Ruby in *The Legend of Ruby Sunday* (Laughter - fizzlingwhizbee)
From: [personal profile] sea_thoughts
Yes, we are delightfuly jaded but why did the debate bring that up?

Date: 2008-10-08 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexiscartwheel.livejournal.com
I guess that doesn't make much sense out of the context of watching the debate at the same time, as I was doing. The debate brought it up because the British ambassador to Afghanistan said the country needed an "acceptable dictator." (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/world/asia/04afghan.html?partner=permalink&exprod=permalink) Brokaw asked them what they thought about that, and to respond to the general sentiment that we're failing in Afghanistan.

Date: 2008-10-08 11:20 pm (UTC)
sea_thoughts: Ruby in *The Legend of Ruby Sunday* (Laughter - fizzlingwhizbee)
From: [personal profile] sea_thoughts
Ahahahaha, that's so true.

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